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Post by Prone on Oct 26, 2006 6:12:07 GMT -8
Do you think that when someon gets out of highschool, they become more mature, or stay the same. I know that I've become more mature since i've gotten out of highschool.
I've noticed that there are a lot of people at the youth chapel at my church, well its the highschool worship service, that i go to, just because i have some freshman friends that go there too, and one of them leads out in a group.
What do you think?
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Post by grayfox7 on Oct 26, 2006 16:01:38 GMT -8
It depends on the person but I think most people pretty much stay the same.
What does your second paragraph have to do with the rest of your post?
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Post by technohawk on Oct 26, 2006 17:02:45 GMT -8
I don't think it's leaving highschool that is the cause of added maturity.
As Gray said it depends on the person. Some people might be more inclined to start acting more mature since they will have to take on more responsability.
But then again College parties tend to decrease maturity quite a lot.
And there are immature people of all age groups. And mature people of all age groups.
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Post by mephistool on Oct 26, 2006 18:15:51 GMT -8
I think once an immature dick is seperated from his jerk-off crowd from highschool, he/she simmers down and are more mature. But then again, some people are just jerks their whole life. I'm undecided.
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Post by Prone on Oct 27, 2006 10:08:23 GMT -8
Well, i meant to say that there are a bunch of highscoolers, and some of them sing, but the others just go off and talk to each other. My sister goes up and sings sometimes, and it is her and I that really make a crowd pleaser, because although I'm in the audience, i make everone who isn't doing anything around me look stupid by acting all motivated. It works!!!!!!
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Post by LostPeon™ on Oct 27, 2006 10:38:42 GMT -8
First off, what the hell is coelation?
It's not a matter of going to college and then magically becoming more mature. Everybody matures at their own rate. There's no pre-defined date when people spontaneously mature.
Also, on a slightly related topic: what does going to church have to do with anything? So, somehow going to church and singing and praying and listen to some guy talk makes you a better person? Sure, those that are talking amongst themselves in church are being bad mannered, but other than that, so what? I don't know how clear I'm being, but I just don't understand the whole "church" concept. The feeling that I get from most people is that you're not as good a person if you don't go to church. Well, can't you be just as good of a person by bettering yourself on your own time without all the singing and other nonsense that goes on?
Someone show me how this church thing works, and maybe I'll go sometime.
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Post by dxlightning on Oct 28, 2006 17:06:57 GMT -8
Step 1: Sign off a large percentage of your paycheck to the church. Step 2: Use their facilities to do something you could easily do for thousands of dollars less in your own home. Step 3: Hit the age of 60 or so, realize that you've squandered a lot of money and your God really hasn't done much for you, and be depressed for most of the rest of your life, unless you win big with the lottery.
Yep, that about sums it up.
In answering the question, I agree with meph about kids maturing when they leave their friends in high school. When you're nearing the end, you kind of know that you probably won't see most of your classmates again. Therefore, you act like an ass and say everything you've ever wanted to say. Then, when you get to college, you need to make a good impression with the people you study with, because most of them are going into the same career as you and you will obviously see them again later in life. No one wants to be on a blacklist because they puked on the CEO of a big organization.
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Post by mortalcry on Oct 28, 2006 18:22:10 GMT -8
A large portion of your paycheck? What facilities would cost an individual that much to use in church? What is God susposed to do for you with that large portion of a paycheck in your idea? You want him to drop you a car from the sky? Worshipping God is susposed to be depressing? Are you sure that this is God you are reffering to? Maturing is a process due to the experiences in life however, if one does not learn from those experiences then it is not likely for one to grow in maturity. It also applies to spiritual maturity. Simply put, without tests and trials in life there is no learning and therefore there is no maturity. Everyone experiences different trials at different times.
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Post by dxlightning on Oct 28, 2006 19:36:47 GMT -8
I was referring to how churches work. I completely support religious worship, I'm just wildly against organized religions, who often take advantage of believers to make a profit.
My favorite example of this was a church I passed by in december of last year that had a manual sign that said:
Donations appreciated! God wants us to have an electric sign!
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Post by mortalcry on Oct 29, 2006 12:09:25 GMT -8
In my experience of church, there's not one that I know of that isn't organized. True that all churches ask for donations but you must decide if their cause for the donations is justified. Examples; childcare services, worship service, maintanence, extra curricular bible studies, expansion of the church building itself, etc. These are good implications for extra donations because it helps the 'body' of believers. If a church is based on truth as it should be, then if asked they should have no problem telling you for it is your right to know what your church is doing. Going to church is much more than simply worshipping God with a song. It is also about supporting fellow worshippers for further encouragement in their walk with God.
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Post by Chalupa! on Oct 29, 2006 17:37:36 GMT -8
Is there any thread that is not a debate about religion? Maybe i'm just too immature to find it.
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Post by dxlightning on Oct 29, 2006 18:22:17 GMT -8
Unfortunately this is what the world is today - a big debate over whether we should all be christian or not.
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Post by LostPeon™ on Oct 29, 2006 19:23:15 GMT -8
Is there any thread that is not a debate about religion? Maybe i'm just too immature to find it. This debate isn't so much about religion as it is about the church establishment.
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Post by navyceals on Dec 3, 2006 16:17:00 GMT -8
I have to agree that attending church and depression do not tend to go together, yet they're definitely not mutually exclusive; and maybe goers are even less depressed than ones who don't? As to the money issue, I am totally agreed, it is unnecessary (by force/obligation anyways). Paying the Church, or even going to Church has absolutely nothing to do with salvation. In a word, stay away from CATHOLICISM! 'Paying' priests to pray for you?? Mandatory tithing, that's not taught in the Bible. So if you're major concern, or rather (justified) principle, is that you don't want to have to pay to go to Church, don't worry that option is definitely out there. Should give it a shot Lost.
Well I think there's good reason for that when you consider what the Bible says is the consequence to not being one. True, just because any source makes a big/scary claim doesn't mean that it should be accepted no questions asked, but probably worth looking into. E.g. you find out that apparently in a month a lethal epidemic will sweep the globe and only those that have gotten a specific shot will live. This must be a joke, a stupid prank, there's no such thing as an epidemic like that. But then further, you find out that roughtly a third of the world's population believes this statement. Or that an even bigger percentage of the population believe the epidemic idea, they just believe in a different shot. Worth it to investigate? Take a 'free' shot that at the worse will not be necessary? So ya, I don't know if it's true that this question is so widely debated, but there are merits for it to be.
Maturity with age? Sounds about right to me (there, my topic wasn't on religion, it was on maturity! lol)
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Post by stellartrip on Dec 4, 2006 4:05:40 GMT -8
This thread is posted in the college section, then it goes to talking about maturity, then peoples different views of churches... Yeah I say we got just a tad bit off topic.
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