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Post by Chalupa! on Sept 4, 2006 9:53:37 GMT -8
SAN DIEGO - Chargers linebacker Steve Foley was shot near his upscale suburban house by an off-duty policeman early Sunday morning in his second run-in with police in 4½ months. Coach Marty Schottenheimer said the wounds were not life-threatening.
What an idiot! This is his second run in with Police where he has acted a fool and this time he was shot 3 times.
I have a hard time understanding how someone having so much success in their life acts as if they have nothing to lose. Amazing that he survived but I think he should be banned from Football.
What do you guys think?
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Post by PhoenixFlare500 on Sept 4, 2006 13:51:07 GMT -8
What was he doing that made the cop shoot him?
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Post by Chalupa! on Sept 4, 2006 13:59:26 GMT -8
An off duty cop was following him for drunk driving and trying to pull him over. He drove to his house and that's where the shooting happened. Supposedly, he tried to run over the cop after he identified himself and showed him he was armed. The officer fired a warning shot and he continued to try to run him over so he was shot in the vehicle. I also heard another version where the girlfriend took over the drivers seat and tried to run him over, so i'm not sure yet which way it happened.
The article also said he had another run in with the police prior to this and he was also drunk at that time.
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Post by PhoenixFlare500 on Sept 4, 2006 15:21:58 GMT -8
Well in that case yeah he's an idiot.
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Post by Prone on Sept 6, 2006 6:36:18 GMT -8
That will show what pride can do. Anyone with that ammount of pride should be taken care of, since they won't make a very good life outside of what they do.
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Post by three2one on Sept 10, 2006 18:16:09 GMT -8
you guys have no ideas what you are talking about. some guy in a mazda follows you for 12 miles trying to get you to stop, off-duty cops are not supposed to do that, you can call it in but you shouldnt engage, especially if it is just a drunk driver. Then it should have been over once foley got home, when foley got out to confront the guy that had been following him the cop shoulda just driven away, instead he gets out and pulls his gun. The cop then fires a Warning shot (which is illegal and that alone is getting him fired) so the girlfriend tries to run him over. she misses and the cop then deciedes to shoot steve three times, nearly killing him. Dont talk about what you dont know, they cop is an idiot.
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Post by Chalupa! on Sept 10, 2006 21:30:51 GMT -8
you guys have no ideas what you are talking about. some guy in a mazda follows you for 12 miles trying to get you to stop, off-duty cops are not supposed to do that, you can call it in but you shouldnt engage, especially if it is just a drunk driver. Then it should have been over once foley got home, when foley got out to confront the guy that had been following him the cop shoulda just driven away, instead he gets out and pulls his gun. The cop then fires a Warning shot (which is illegal and that alone is getting him fired) so the girlfriend tries to run him over. she misses and the cop then deciedes to shoot steve three times, nearly killing him. Dont talk about what you dont know, they cop is an idiot. Then why are *you* talking about what *you* don't know about? First off, the Off-Duty Officer IS supposed to do that. Why do you think they are supposed to carry their guns off duty (some departments REQUIRE it). Once a Police Officer is sworn in, they are on duty 24 hours a day and MUST act if they see a crime in progress. "the off-duty Coronado officer followed a suspected drunken driver weaving in and out of freeway traffic at speeds up to 90 mph. Authorities said the driver nearly collided with several other vehicles. " Yeah, that's a GOOD reason to follow the person. "The officer identified himself, authorities said, and warned Foley he was armed. He fired a warning shot, at which point Gaut steered the car at the officer, sheriff's officials said. "The officer fired two rounds at the vehicle," sheriff's Lt. Dennis Brugos said. "The male then came at the officer and put his right hand by his waistband and the officer fired at him." Once an Officer Identifies himself, and tells you he is armed, why the hell would you try to run him over or come at him? And I found nothing about the Officer being fired for anything. I did notice this: "It was Foley's second run-in with authorities in 4 1/2 months. He was arrested April 21 on charges of resisting arrest after police said he scuffled with officers. He also was booked on charges of battery on a police officer and public drunkenness. " So it really looks like you were the one who didn't know what he was talking about. Sounds like the Officer did a good job in stopping a drunk driver, and Foley is an idiot. Here are the links to the stories I quoted: www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/03/sportsline/main1963681_page2.shtmlsportsline.com/nfl/story/9636283
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Post by three2one on Sept 10, 2006 22:19:20 GMT -8
once foley got to his house they called off the need for an on duty police officer cause he was HOME, it was over. this dumb ass followed him 12 miles cause he is a racist prick. I guarantee he will lose his job, no doubt about it, and he will most likely be sued as well. Cops can not fire a "warning shot" I thought everyone knew that. When they shoot they shoot to kill and thats it. off-duty cops are not supposed to engage a suspect unless absolutly neccesary. Was it really neccesary to engage a drunk driver parked in his driveway? If it was such a big deal how come he didnt call for on duty assitance earlier? it doesnt take that long for a cop to respond. my brother is an EMT and he says all they do when they see a drunk driver is call it in and follow them for a couple minutes tell cops show up then take off. Dont listen to what the papers tell you, they never even mentioned that he almsot died. He was shot THREE times, a friend was a paramedic on the scene and said he didnt have a diastolic pulse.
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Post by jonathonkiler on Sept 10, 2006 22:28:09 GMT -8
I'm thinking that if this goes any further. it needs to be moved to the debate section.
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Post by Chalupa! on Sept 10, 2006 23:01:14 GMT -8
once foley got to his house they called off the need for an on duty police officer cause he was HOME, it was over. this dumb ass followed him 12 miles cause he is a racist prick. An Off-Duty Police officer is no different than an On-Duty Police Officer except that he does not have his patrol car and uniform on (although some departments do let the officers take their police car home). It was NOT over when he got home. The Officer still observed a crime in progress and had every right to do what he did. Give us any shred of evidence that the cop was a racist! In fact, what was the race of the cop? Oh, that's right, that information has not been released. Stop making shit up that you don't know about. Wasn't that what you said originally? I guarantee he will lose his job, no doubt about it, and he will most likely be sued as well. Cops can not fire a "warning shot" I thought everyone knew that. When they shoot they shoot to kill and thats it. I'm not aware of this departments policies and I doubt you are either. While firing a warning shot seems like a bad idea, i'm not sure of the Officer's reasons for making this decisions. Obviously, it will be investigated as all Police shootings must be. Unless you work for internal affairs at this department, i'm pretty sure you can't guarantee us that he will be fired. off-duty cops are not supposed to engage a suspect unless absolutly neccesary. Was it really neccesary to engage a drunk driver parked in his driveway? If it was such a big deal how come he didnt call for on duty assitance earlier? it doesnt take that long for a cop to respond. Give us the link to any credible web site that tells us a sworn Police Officer is not supposed to engage a suspect unless absolutely necessary. I think you just made that up! Second, how do you know he didn't call for back up? The article states a Police car arrived seconds after the shooting. Seems to me he must have called for back up unless the response time to this upscale remote area is "seconds". my brother is an EMT and he says all they do when they see a drunk driver is call it in and follow them for a couple minutes tell cops show up then take off. That's because your brother is an EMT. That's what an EMT should do. Dont listen to what the papers tell you, they never even mentioned that he almsot died. He was shot THREE times, a friend was a paramedic on the scene and said he didnt have a diastolic pulse. Who should I listen to? For now, that's all we have. I've still yet to see a link to anything supporting anything you have said. I think you're making most of this stuff up! (Sorry, but I'm calling it like I see it) I didn't plan to debate this, but when someone starts adding all these made up facts, it's hard not to.
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Post by three2one on Sept 11, 2006 16:43:55 GMT -8
I work with a guy who went through the police academy. I know he was white because he was in the academy with my friend. I am not saying that foley was in the right, all I am saying is that this young cop, who has only been with the force about a year made some really bad choices, and I will be proved correct when this is all over.
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