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Post by grayfox7 on Feb 5, 2006 22:50:31 GMT -8
I bet ten bucks on Seattle and they lost. But then the dude decided to change the bet from ten bucks to me getting a haircut. And well, that's just something I wasn't willing to take him up on. So I got to keep my ten bucks.
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Post by LostPeon™ on Feb 6, 2006 1:06:21 GMT -8
Much better defense? Since when? Since all the ESPN analysts started talking about how great that Polamalu guy is since that interception? Where was the talk during the season? I'll give credit to them and Joey Porter though. Quality players. Polamalu doesn't often get the credit he deserves because he plays all over the field. I think you will see some big plays today from Polamalu and Seattle will be trying to figure out where he is lined up most of the game. Chalupa Looks like you thought wrong. He wasn't a big factor in the game at all. Another thing: I would like to officially pronounce this the worst Superbowl ever. First, there was the touchdown that Roethisberger didn't get. Then, there was the offensive pass interference that Jackson didn't commit. The officals were horrible. I'm wondering how much the Steelers paid for those kind of calls. Ok, so Seattle did shoot themselves in the foot... repeatedly, but the refs decided to pour salt in the wounds. I'm also wondering what was going on with Seattle at the end of the second quarter. The clock's running out... Hasslebeck's changing the play like five times, and then Pittsburg calls a timeout? Whatever... just another wasted opportunity. Also, there was the end of the fourth quarter. I mean, c'mon Hasslebeck, find a reciever on the sidelines and get out of bounds! Stop passing it to guys in the middle of the field. Both teams executed poorly and both of Pittsburg's 2 real touchdowns only came because of 1) a lucky hole in Seattle's defense for the 75 yards, and b) a trick play. And to top it all off, Seattle's kicker could have been outperformed by a paraplegic. Sure, they were 50 and 54 yard field goals he missed, but it's an indoor stadium, no wind. And Seattle's offense didn't help him out, losing yardage that took them to where he had to attempt such long field goals. All in all, poor game. Final adjusted score: Seattle 17 Pittsburg 14 MVP: Nobody deserved it.
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Post by Chalupa! on Feb 6, 2006 9:05:39 GMT -8
Polamalu doesn't often get the credit he deserves because he plays all over the field. I think you will see some big plays today from Polamalu and Seattle will be trying to figure out where he is lined up most of the game. Chalupa Looks like you thought wrong. He wasn't a big factor in the game at all. Although I expected more from him, I would disagree with you that he wasn't a factor. It wasn't the best, but again I would disagree with you. The last few Superbowls were worse in that the game was decided early on. At least this one was close. He got the touchdown. The ball must touch the white line, which it did while he was in the air. It doesn't matter where he lands. He pushed off the defensive player. That's pass interference. It could have gone either way, but there is no way you could say the ref was wrong. Well you could, but it's subjective. Just because Madden said he didn't think it was pass interference doesn't make the call wrong. Remember, Madden is an old school guy that is against most penalty calls. He thinks you should let the guys play Football. What he disagrees with most of the time is the rule and not the Ref. Either way, I think if the call was made for your team, then it was a good call. If it was against your team, then it was bad. That's Football. I agree here. Horrible execution. Isn't that how most teams score in Football? Are we taking away trick plays and scoring when the D wasn't ready? lol Now your getting to the root cause on why Seattle lost. They sucked! You mean, Final Peon Score, aka wish list. Chalupa
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Post by LostPeon™ on Feb 6, 2006 14:38:51 GMT -8
Ok, notice I said, "big factor." Polamalu wasn't as big a factor in the Superbowl as he had been in previous games.
I do know that the ball has to cross the white line to count as a touchdown. It didn't.
Nope. All four of the guys doing commentaries (Steve Young, Michael Irvin, etc.) said there was no way it was pass interference. Maybe if you were watching the game, you would have noticed them talking about that. They even mentioned how they discovered that the refs in the booth that call the reviews inside 2 minutes didn't call it pass interference. He had his arm out. Not a push. Not pass interference.
I was mostly just pointing out how Roethlisberger wasn't all everybody expected him to be. Starting off, he was what? like 2 of 10 for 5 yards or something.
True, both teams sucked.
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Post by Chalupa! on Feb 6, 2006 19:07:37 GMT -8
Ok, notice I said, "big factor." Polamalu wasn't as big a factor in the Superbowl as he had been in previous games. Then maybe you will notice that I never said he would be a "big factor" in my original post, which you said I was wrong about. So, I accept your admission that you were wrong in calling me wrong. Listening to the game on the radio doesn't count. You should have watched it. Even after the replay the call stood. Even the announcers admitted there was no hard evidence that the ball didn't cross the goal line. Just because he was pushed back by a Defender so he landed back from the line means nothing. You have to look at if any part of the ball touched the white line while he was in the air. It did, and that's why it was ruled a touchdown. But let's pretend it was overturned. They probably could have made the touchdown on 4th down, or even if they took the field goal, the Stealers still won 17-10. He had his arm out? Yeah, when I push someone, my arm is out too. What's funny is that even with all the Seattle fans complaining about the bad calls, they all agree that he "pushed" off the defender, but they claim it's done all the time. The call was actually correct by the rules. You could argue that they should have allowed it, but to claim it as a bad call is just wishfull thinking. I think it could have went either way but the call is not bad when it fits the rules. Starting off? So you only look at someones stats when you want to? How about just looking at the 3rd Quarter then, when he played pretty well. But the Seahawks sucked more. You are obviously just dillusional right now and needing to make up excuses for why they lost. Maybe if Stevens would have actually caught a pass all night, they would have scored more than 10 points. Don't be such a cry baby. Get over it. They lost. Fair and square. There should have been TEN more holding calls against the Seahawks. Go to bed. You'll be more realistic tomorrow Chalupa
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Post by LostPeon™ on Feb 7, 2006 3:11:38 GMT -8
I still didn't see any of the big plays Polamalu was supposed to have.
Sure, ten more holding calls against the Seahawks. That's one thing that isn't called enough. But also against the Steelers, there was plenty of situations that should have been called.
Then again, what do I know? I'm just delusional right now. I should really just accept the word of the almighty God that is Chalupa. I'll just go to bed... and be more realistic tomorrow. And realise that it doesn't matter anyway.
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Post by fuzzyrubberbear on Feb 7, 2006 13:17:28 GMT -8
;DWell i have to admit, the officials werent the best that they could have been, but roethlisberger did cross the goal line ( as said earlier by chalupa ) however, i do agree that it was a ticky tack foul called on jackson in the end zone even with seattle scroing that touchdown, it would have been 21-15, with pittsburgh winning anyways, so stop complaining all of you and its seattles own fault for not operating at the necessary pace at the end of both halves so basically, the refs sucked, but seattle still got outplayed also, i dont think anyone really deserved the mvp, however, i would have given it to randle el, whos pass looked better than hasselbecks or roethlisbergers
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Post by Chalupa! on Feb 7, 2006 20:08:51 GMT -8
Very well put fuzzy. Now I can agree with pretty much everything you said. He did cross the goal line. The foul was as you put it "ticky tack" (whatever that means), but it existed.
Peon- Get a good nights sleep?
Chalupa
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