|
Post by rbobatar on Feb 14, 2007 17:09:37 GMT -8
AND WHICH PARTY DO YOU THINK HAS A SOLID ACTUAL PLATFORM FOR SOLVING THE PROBLEMS OF GLOBAL WARMING? THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENVIRONMENT? THE MASSIVE NATIONAL DEFICIT? THE AMERICAN IMAGE IN TATTERED RUINS AROUND THE WORLD? THE RAPID DECLINE IN WORLD OIL RESERVES AND RAPID INCREASE IN AMERICAS DEPENDENCY ON THEM? WHAT ABOUT THE MASSIVELY DESTRUCTIVE CONSUMER CULTURE THAT NOBODY SEEMS TO DARE OPPOSE?
DID YOU JUST COMPLETELY MISS THE PURPOSE OF RBOBS POST? IT DOESNT MATTER WHO YOU VOTE FOR YOU WILL GET THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WILL ARGUE OVER WHICH FORK THEY EAT SALAD WITH (RBOB HEARS JOHN MCCAIN USES A DESERT FORK, WHAT A MAVERICK!) WHILE THE POLICIES ON REAL ISSUES THAT MATTER ARE DECIDED BY CORRUPT BUSINESSMEN AND LOBBYISTS.
YOU AMERICANS ARE ENTIRELY TOO STUPID TO RUN THE WORLD, THIS DEBATE IS EVIDENCE OF IT.
|
|
dxlightning
Platinum Membership
[ss:LostPeon's Gray][ss:LostPeon's Gray]
Posts: 1,246
|
Post by dxlightning on Feb 14, 2007 17:50:49 GMT -8
This depends on whether you think we are the cause of global warming. I'm under the impression that yes, we've sped it up a bit, but we haven't CAUSED it. Obviously the democrats would address the issue more, but I don't think it's that important an issue.
Again, probably Dems, since most treehuggers tend to be liberal.
Bush has already introduced a plan which will (allegedly) eliminate the deficit in 3 years. Whether that will be reality, I don't know, but steps are being taken.
Neither party will be able to address that. If by "the rest of the world" you mean the UN, who the hell cares?
Again, steps are already being taken, and this also depends on what you think of as "rapid". If by "rapid decline" you mean used up in the next 200 years, then sure, it's rapid. I personally have no worries; If more auto companies will produce vehicles such as the Chevrolet Volt, the "crisis" will be no more. In this day and age, the auto companies would easily be able to make more profit by producing environment friendly cars. The companies are more responsible for this than the government.
I'm not 100% certain of what you mean by this, but if you mean the idea that someone will buy something, get bored with it, then throw it out//stow it away, that's what garage sales and salvation army are for. This is yet again too miniscule for the government to have to deal with.
You see RBOB, my post wasn't in response to yours. Therefore I really don't give a shit what you said. See, the problem with people like you is you seem to think that everything should be addressed at once. That's just ridiculous. This is about the president for THE NEXT 4 YEARS. Do you know what 4 years is on the grand scale of all of the problems you're talking about here? It's next to nothing. We won't be able to save the environment in 4 years. We won't be able to stop the use of Oil in 4 years, and we sure as hell won't be able to fix our reputation in 4 years. The most important issue in the next four years is the WAR IN IRAQ, and if you think Congress and the President are just sitting on their hands ripping ass all day long, you're an ignorant little man (or lack thereof).
Don't pretend to know anything about government RBOB. It's a very involved way of LIFE. Watch CSPAN once in a while, then post, mmk?
|
|
|
Post by rbobatar on Feb 14, 2007 19:20:13 GMT -8
GLOBAL WARMING: YOU THINK YOU HAVE NOT CAUSED IT AND YET YOU CLAIM RBOB IS IGNORANT? HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING UNDER A ROCK FOR THE PAST MONTHS?
THE IPCC REPORT RELEASED LAST MONTH, WHICH ANALYZED 17,000 PEER REVIEWED JOURNAL ARTICLES ON THE SUBJECT HAS DETERMINED:
"It concludes that warming of the climate system is unequivocal, and that it is very likely (probability is more than 90%) that most of the warming observed since the mid-20th century is caused by human emissions of greenhouse gases."
SO HAVING ESTABLISHED WE HAVE CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING AND THAT IT IS UPON US TO TAKE PROPT ACTION FOR THE SAKE OF FUTURE GENERATIONS, THEN IT IS OF COURSE ATTENDANT UPON US TO SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN YOUR GOVERNMENT DOESNT DO ANYTHING ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING AND CURRENT EMISSION TRENDS ARE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE.
ALTHOUGH SINCE SUCH GOVERNMENT COMMISSIONED STUDIES ARE NONEXISTANT IN THE UNITED STATES THANKS TO YOUR EASY DISTRACTION WITH GAY MARRIAGE AND THE QUAGMIRE IN IRAQ OF YOUR OWN MAKING, THEN WE WILL SIMPLY HAVE TO RELY UPON THE REPORT CREATED BY YOUR CLOSEST ALLY.
A report by economist Sir Nicholas Stern suggests that global warming could shrink the global economy by 20%. But taking action now would cost just 1% of global gross domestic product, the 700-page study says. The report says that without action, up to 200 million people could become refugees as their homes are hit by drought or flood.
Mr Blair said the consequences for the planet of inaction were "literally disastrous".
"This disaster is not set to happen in some science fiction future many years ahead, but in our lifetime," he said.
"Investment now will pay us back many times in the future, not just environmentally but economically as well."
"For every £1 invested now we can save £5, or possibly more, by acting now.
"We can't wait the five years it took to negotiate Kyoto - we simply don't have the time. We accept we have to go further (than Kyoto)."
OH BOY BLAIR THAT TREE HUGGER! ARE YOU GOING TO IGNORE HIM TOO? DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO BLAIR IS? DO YOU STILL THINK GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT IMPORTANT? DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MORE DESTRUCTIVE THIS WILL BE TO THE GLOBAL ECONOMY THAN THE GREAT DEPRESSION WHICH TRIGGERED WORLD WAR TWO? AND AS FOR THE US INVOLVEMENT, EVEN SOMEONE WITH AS MUCH SEEMING IGNORANCE ON THE SUBJECT SHOULD BE AWARE OF THE US ROLE
"The US has 4% of the world's population and accounts for 25% of global gas emissions and 36% of emissions from the industrialized world. That is why it's so important that they concentrate on the domestic economy - that is the cause of climate change."
FURTHERMORE COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA AND INDIA AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE DEVELOPING WORLD IS USING THE UNITED STATES LACK OF ACTION AS AN EXCUSE TO NOT ACT. THERE ARE MANY QUOTATIONS THAT ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE ON THE INTERNET, IF YOU CARED TO LOOK OF CHINESE ENVIRONMENT MINISTERS SAYING SOMETHING TO THE EXTENT OF: "WELL IF THE US DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT WHY SHOULD WE?"
AS FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AT LARGE WHAT THE DEMS DO IS GIVE USELESS RHETORIC THAT HAS NO BEARING ON REALITY. THEY BICKER OVER DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC WILDLIFE REFUGE WHILE
"The apocalypse has a new date: 2048.
That's when the world's oceans will be empty of fish, predicts an international team of ecologists and economists. The cause: the disappearance of species due to overfishing, pollution, habitat loss, and climate change."
DO YOU KNOW WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE WORLDS POPULATION RELIES ON THE SEA FOR THEIR DIET?
AND WHAT OF THE BUSH PLAN FOR THE NATIONAL DEFICIT? TELL RBOB MORE OF THIS PLAN? IS SPENDING 700 BILLION DOLLARS AMERICA DOESNT HAVE ON THE MILITARY IN 2007 PART OF IT?
AND FOR THE UN YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS IT IS KIND OF EMBARRASSING. YOU SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED. ARE YOU EMBARRASSED? DO YOU WONDER WHY THE REST OF THE WORLD THINKS AMERICA A COUNTRY OF ARROGANT f**kS? DO YOU WONDER WHY TERRORISTS ATTACK AMERICA?
FURTHERMORE YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE LOOMING OIL CRISIS IS ALSO ABSOLUTELY IGNORANT.
"Civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon. This is not the wacky proclamation of a doomsday cult, apocalypse bible prophecy sect, or conspiracy theory society. Rather, it is the scientific conclusion of the best paid, most widely-respected geologists, physicists, bankers, and investors in the world. These are rational, professional, conservative individuals who are absolutely terrified by a phenomenon known as global "Peak Oil." Oil will not just "run out" because all oil production follows a bell curve. This is true whether we're talking about an individual field, a country, or on the planet as a whole.
Oil is increasingly plentiful on the upslope of the bell curve, increasingly scarce and expensive on the down slope. The peak of the curve coincides with the point at which the endowment of oil has been 50 percent depleted. Once the peak is passed, oil production begins to go down while cost begins to go up.
In practical and considerably oversimplified terms, this means that if 2005 was the year of global Peak Oil, worldwide oil production in the year 2030 will be the same as it was in 1980. However, the world’s population in 2030 will be both much larger (approximately twice) and much more industrialized (oil-dependent) than it was in 1980. Consequently, worldwide demand for oil will outpace worldwide production of oil by a significant margin. As a result, the price will skyrocket, oil-dependant economies will crumble, and resource wars will explode. "
DO YOU THINK THERE IS TIME TO BUILD 800 MILLION CHEVROLET VOLTS WHILE THE PRICE OF OIL SKYROCKETS? DO YOU THINK THERE IS ENOUGH TO LET ALONE BUILD THOSE CARS CONSIDERING BUILDING ONE CAR TAKES MORE OIL THAN THE CAR USES RUNNING IN TWO YEARS?
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. YOU HAVE PROVEN YOUR EXTREME IGNORANCE ABOUT MATTERS OF CURRENT EVENTS AND OBVIOUSLY DO YOU THINK IT IS WISE TO VOTE REPUBLICAN BECAUSE THEY CAN SOMEHOW GET YOU OUT OF A WAR YOU LET THEM CREATE BECAUSE YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND VOTED FOR THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE? DO YOU THINK THEY STILL DESERVE YOUR TRUST AFTER THEY LIED YOUR COUNTRY INTO A WAR THAT HAS FAILED TO ACHIEVE ANYTHING, ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING? THAT SHOULD BE THE BIGGEST SCANDAL IN THE HISTORY OF YOUR COUNTRY ITS JUT THAT TEH DEMOCRATS DONT BRING IT UP BECAUSE THEY ARE AS CULPABLE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT SECURING IRAQI OIL WILL PREVENT THE CHINESE AND EUROPEANS FROM GETTING AT IT. WHEN THE CANADIAN LIBERAL PARTY GAVE 200 MILLION DOLLARS TO LIBERAL FRIENDLY AD FIRMS THEY WERE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE. HOW MANY BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES HAS YOUR GOVERNMENT COST YOU? WHY ARE YOU VOTING FOR THEM AGAIN?
GOD YOUR IGNORANT ITS SO FRUSTRATING.
|
|
dxlightning
Platinum Membership
[ss:LostPeon's Gray][ss:LostPeon's Gray]
Posts: 1,246
|
Post by dxlightning on Feb 14, 2007 19:28:05 GMT -8
Rbob, this thread is about who you're going to vote for and why. You need to learn that in a debate you don't resort to cheap insults to try and make your point.
To me, you are completely discredited, and your quotes that sound like they came from conspiracy sites with their "armageddon" talk don't help your case either. Don't even bother responding to this post, because I'm not gonna bother reading it.
|
|
|
Post by rbobatar on Feb 14, 2007 19:52:41 GMT -8
|
|
|
Post by rabidgecko on Feb 14, 2007 22:56:39 GMT -8
VOTE GREEN PARTY : D p.s. cars aren't the only things that need oil for gas dx lots and lots and lots of things need oil, just to be produced
|
|
|
Post by softspoken on Feb 15, 2007 20:56:33 GMT -8
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan we're killing ourselves.
but yeah greeen is clean!
|
|
|
Post by tehn00b on Mar 7, 2007 19:38:02 GMT -8
I think those who have read this thread have overlooked some key points made by rbobatar:
"EVERYONE INVOLVED IN AMERICAN POLITICS ARE IDIOTS. THERE ARE NO GOOD CANDIDATES. IN AMERICAN POLITICS IT IS EXPONENTIALLY MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE GOOD MAKEUP ARTISTS AND REALISTIC HAIR EXTENSIONS THAN ANY ACTUAL CONVICTION OR EFFECTIVE CAMPAIGN PLATFORM. " - a tad bit exaggerated.
"HAVE YOU SEEN THE SIMPSONS WHERE KANG AND KODOS TAKE OVER THE DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN PARTIES AND NO MATTER WHO WINS THE SIMPSONS HAVE TO BUILD A LASER TO SHOOT AT SOME PLANET NOBODY HAS EVER HEARD OF? WELL, YOU GET THE POINT. " - my favorite episode.
"IT IS TOO LATE. YOU AMERICANS CAN KEEP BICKERING OVER ABORTION AND DRILLING IN THE ARCTIC WILDLIFE PRESERVE, TO THE REST OF THE WORLD IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE NERO, FIDDLING WHILE ROME BURNS. IT IS TOO LATE. WE HAVE A CENTURY UNTIL THE EARTH BECOMES DAMN NEAR UNINHABITABLE AND AT THAT TIME YOU AMERICANS WILL SURELY FIND CHINA, TERRORISTS OR SOMEONE ELSE TO BLAME FOR YOUR OWN IDIOCY. DID YOU JUST COMPLETELY MISS THE PURPOSE OF RBOBS POST? IT DOESNT MATTER WHO YOU VOTE FOR YOU WILL GET THE SAME PEOPLE WHO WILL ARGUE OVER WHICH FORK THEY EAT SALAD WITH (RBOB HEARS JOHN MCCAIN USES A DESERT FORK, WHAT A MAVERICK!) WHILE THE POLICIES ON REAL ISSUES THAT MATTER ARE DECIDED BY CORRUPT BUSINESSMEN AND LOBBYISTS. GOD YOUR IGNORANT ITS SO FRUSTRATING." - greatest degree of agreement with that last point, but i think i'll start preparing for d00msday now.
"The apocalypse has a new date: 2048." - too early, rbob/nostradamus#2.
|
|