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Post by Chalupa! on Jan 18, 2005 21:50:41 GMT -8
Recently reported in the news, several web sites and groups want to protest the President by: 1. Turning their backs on him as his motorcade passes 2. Not going to work on Thursday 3. Not buying gas (All of this on Thursday) 4. Not spending money 5. Wearing black ties or to tie a black ribbon on your vehicle antenna. www.bushblackout.comwww.black-thursday.comhttp://www.notoned**ndime.com <- Guess you have to retype this one! haha I for one, think that some people are very sore losers. (And I stress the word losers. The election was held. The people voted. Bush was elected. Get over it! Chalupa
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Post by studlyrocker38 on Jan 18, 2005 23:22:50 GMT -8
Well, I think your an idiot for putting down not buying gas twice! j/k
I believe people have a right to protest his election, because even though he won against John Kerry, that does not mean people still like him. Although, these methods I feel are very insulting to President Bush, and to the United States in general. It bothers me very much how people won't support their President. Its one thing to not support someone's actions, and its another to support the person who pretty much controls your life. I do not hold a firm stance on whether or not I like George Bush or not. I may think that there were obviously other intentions in going to Iraq then what was said, I may not agree with his stance on same-sex marriages, and other things, but god damnit, he's our President.
I can see why other countries may view Americans as very stuck up and arrogant. We are inhabitants of one of the greatest countries in the world, for our access to things, our freedoms, and our overall quality of living. I think if anyone that may protest against him that didn't vote, should be stripped of their right to protest against what happened. I also must agree that doing these type of things makes you a poor sport. Hold up a sign, the black ties I guess is ok, but I really feel people need to stand by their President.
I'm 15, and lately, I've been considering whether or not I might enlist into the military when I turn 18, just because I feel its my duty. Its corny, and I've always thought it as such, but besides the fact I'd make a pretty bad ass Army Ragner ;D, I think people do not stand by their country enough.
I think people should get over it, as well. I wouldn't come and wreck your party if you won and I didn't like you. There are so many things that factor into what people think, and certain organizations that mean more to some people, but people are just lame when they are being poor sports. I come from a very Democratic family, and have taken a neutral ground on political affairs. In the 2008 election, I will for the man or woman I want in office, and until then, I will make due with the decision that has been laid before us. George Bush is the President of the United States from 2004-2008.
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Post by Chalupa! on Jan 19, 2005 22:19:18 GMT -8
What are you talking about? lol- Okay, I edited it. But I am on work travel and was on very, very little sleep!
Plus, you spelled Ranger as Ragner so you are a complete idiot! LOL- J/K
But I think you make some good points. I have supported people in the past that I did not like or vote for. Once all is said and done, I support the elected official.
Chalupa
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Post by barneypwnz on Jan 20, 2005 15:13:04 GMT -8
Okay, I know that I'm making a HUGE mistake posting in the debate forum AGAIN but I feel the need to point something out. StudlyRocker, you said several times that people should stick close by their president. Since you made some other good points, I just have a little question that I want to get your opinion on. Do you think that President George W. Bush has a hard job and needs supporters? I mean, seriously, the President has countless advisors, countless bodyguards, complete access to any records or any services most places in the world, and A WHOLE LOTTA POWA!!! I, for one, don't think he has a hard job at all. You sound intelligent, so I want to know what you think.
As for the Inauguration, it's pretty easy to see how retarded the protesters are. It would be funny if somebody tried to back them up. But, I also think it is not smart that there's a big parade and everything. Speech is enough. And for some reason, a few things crossed my mind while I was watching a little bit of the parade in school:
How funny it would be if a streaker ran by with a flag waving "Go Bush!" How funny it would be if the car broke down. How funny if Bush got out of his car and started throwing eggs at the crowd with a very red and angry face.
Am I weird?
Barney
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Post by navyceals on Jan 22, 2005 2:50:38 GMT -8
Hmm well, as a strong sentiment of this thread suggests, support the winner. Obviously, a lot of people did not want Bush to win, but he did, so bow to the majority, it's called democracy. Especially in these times where a strong front has to be shown, you can't have such internal discourse.
Lol, well that's interesting BarneyPwnz. Not difficult to run the most powerful/influential/global/hated country in the world, quite the thought. You are right that he has many, many advisors, and delegated officials, for the thousands of subcategories of: friendly/enemy countries, the health care system, the education system, the gay marriage issue, the anti-abortion issue, the newest terrorist, the you name it, there's a category for it. But the President still has to make the decisions and he's the one (as we have seen a lot in this part of the website) who takes the heat for choosing a side, when either way someone's going to be mad. So as you said "and A WHOLE LOTTA POWA!!!" with power comes responsibility, decisions and the stress of it all!
NavY_Ceals
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Post by barneypwnz on Jan 23, 2005 16:36:50 GMT -8
Not difficult to run the most powerful/influential/global/hated country in the world, quite the thought. You are right that he has many, many advisors, and delegated officials, for the thousands of subcategories of: friendly/enemy countries, the health care system, the education system, the silly marriage issue, the anti-abortion issue, the newest terrorist, the you name it, there's a category for it. But the President still has to make the decisions and he's the one (as we have seen a lot in this part of the website) who takes the heat for choosing a side, when either way someone's going to be mad. So as you said "and A WHOLE LOTTA POWA!!!" with power comes responsibility, decisions and the stress of it all! NavY_Ceals Well said NavY. Yeah, the president's job is a lose-lose situation, but that's politics. You have people who respect you, people who like you, and people who hate you. But, again, that's politics. Still, Bush has got to take the heat, like you said, for all the mistakes or sides he chooses, but you cannot escape it. And yeah, for the most part running the strongest country in the world can't be easy, but "great power comes great responsibilty" Ohhh I feel like I'm in Spiderman or something, although I was quoting you ;D However, with great power also comes great leisure, which was the whole point I made in the previous post. Having people who hate you isn't much fun, having to make desicions that could cost lives is very depressing, BUT... Having lots of cash lying around to use for whenever you want is A LOT of fun, and having alot of people who do like you is very reassuring in what you do. The fact is, you can sum up politics in one sentence: Politics comes with politicians; in races, it's just a contest to see which phony candidate can come up with the most convincing lies. Whether I've worded what I really wanted to say correctly or not, I think it's true. SoOoOo, what this kind of all adds up to is that with power comes responsibility, and with responsibilities, comes good and bad things. In essence, running for president will get you things you like and don't, but you put it on yourself, by becoming president to the most powerful nation in the first place. I think this is right. Barney
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Post by alink2thepast on Apr 26, 2005 16:17:02 GMT -8
so umm.... does the number 3.5 million ring any bells?
comeon guys its America. The democrats submitted their will to the majority and lost. The problem with the Democrats was that they relied on a smear campaign and they like to ignore the fact that the US consists of than the east coast and california. The bible belt is a big belt and they put their votes in the right place. Chalupa was exactly right, theyre being sore losers. Not to mention that the young people just over 18 cant complain if they didnt vote. . .
really, Bush took 37 states and Kerry took 13, so who do you think should win?
Heres the main difference between the Democrats and Republicans: The Democrats are the party that think the government is meant to serve them. The Republicans are the party that think the government is meant to represent them.
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