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Post by Prone on Oct 9, 2007 23:48:36 GMT -8
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuZPT3VnLE4I put this in the debate section, because I figured we could talk about it, and hopefully throw in our point/counterpoint of the whole thing. I honestly cling to the bible's interpretation of the end, where there will be fire and brimstone, which will destroy the wicked one last time. I can't really believe that the earth would end in 2012. Sure, the mayans, who predicted it, were very smart people, but is what they're saying true? It appears that if not everything is perfect, then sure, there will be a collision from orbit sooner or later, but another planet in our system will collide with us? Comments?
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Post by LostPeon™ on Oct 10, 2007 14:21:33 GMT -8
If this were really as massive of a threat as the video claims, there would be more publicity about it and I wouldn't have to hear about it through YouTube...
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Post by PhoenixFlare500 on Oct 10, 2007 15:28:08 GMT -8
Lies I tell you! The end is now! The world will end on New Years Eve this year! Everybody spread the word!
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Post by dxlightning on Oct 10, 2007 23:27:39 GMT -8
This video lists no credible sources whatsoever, unless you consider the Bible to be one. It lists a NASA webpage, but it's just the search page, and when you search for Orpheus it mentions no "impending doom." I'm calling this video a conspiracy theory, not to be taken seriously whatsoever.
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Post by Hawaiian Born on Oct 11, 2007 17:32:42 GMT -8
No no no no no no! I graduate that year!
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Post by tyrantisius on Oct 11, 2007 20:00:40 GMT -8
I watched a show on TV once that predicted the end of the world to be December 12, 2012...
12/12/12?
I dunno I didn't watch the video.
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Post by ♦Whot♦ on Oct 12, 2007 13:52:11 GMT -8
The world is going to end at the year 2000.
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Post by PhoenixFlare500 on Oct 12, 2007 13:58:54 GMT -8
It's true, I've been there.
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Post by bart on Oct 12, 2007 14:52:25 GMT -8
Aren\'t we already in heaven?
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Post by tyrantisius on Oct 14, 2007 19:12:31 GMT -8
Well said, fallen comrade.
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Post by boozledorf on Oct 30, 2007 5:10:47 GMT -8
If this were really as massive of a threat as the video claims, there would be more publicity about it and I wouldn't have to hear about it through YouTube... Not necessarily. Global Warming is imminent, and yet people claim that since it's getting very cold now, it's just a load of crap, and so you don't hear about it as much as we should. However, they don't realize something. Melting the polar ice caps increases the amount of water in the oceans. The sun hits the oceans and warms them up, and, the water in turn heats up the air around it, which is carried over land. If the oceans have greater mass, then it takes larger amounts of energy to heat the oceans up to the same temperature. Which means that, once the polar ice caps melt completely (and as a result, we lose a substantial amount of land mass), it will take MASSIVE amounts of energy to heat the oceans, and the result of Global Warming will be a much colder Earth.
But I do believe that the Mayans were right. Take a look at the signs -- Global Warming (see rant above), the threat of nuclear annihilation...Did you guys know that the moon is actually losing orbit? What keeps an object in orbit is that the force of gravity is complemented by forwards motion. The object is pulled downward, but it's also moving to the side, and the result is that the overall distance between the object and the Earth's center remains unchanged, as it's simply moved to the next point on the circle that is its orbit. However, if the object isn't traveling sideways quickly enough, the gravitational pull of the Earth will pull it down (think meteorites). On the other hand, if the object is traveling too quickly, then gravity won't be able to pull it down, and the result will be a spiral "orbit" that results in the object being flung away. What effect will this have on Earth? First of all, we won't have the tides anymore. But another thing -- did you know that, before the Earth had a moon, the day was about 6 hours long? The earth days are getting longer. Eventually (though thankfully, this will happen much after the theoretical 2012 demise of the Earth), an Earth day will be over 1,100 hours long. I could keep going on, but it's rather important that I start paying attention in class right now (Modeling and Animation), so I'll leave it at that. My point? The Earth is screwed.
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Post by Prone on Oct 30, 2007 7:47:30 GMT -8
You sound much like the evolutionists who babble on that life was carved out of a tiny pool of primordial soup.
What the video said was that a planet, planet X, as they call it, will lose it's orbital path, and collide with earth in the year 2012. I do not believe that the moon would lose orbit, but I could be wrong.
I do not believe that the threat of global warming will have any effect on the orbit of our moon, or any other planet whatsoever. What proof do you have that our moon is losing orbit, and will have a crash course with us?
You seem to have told us that the moon was losing orbit, then give an account on what happens to lose an orbit, but where are your sources?
The earth, and the planets in our solar system have sustained pretty much the same orbital path since the universe began (6000 years ago), and it would have to take some cosmic interruption to cause those orbits to mess up, but it may be meteorites that do it. Who knows, we'll see what happens in 2012, one way or another.
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Post by boozledorf on Oct 30, 2007 8:24:27 GMT -8
You sound much like the evolutionists who babble on that life was carved out of a tiny pool of primordial soup. Erm, what?What the video said was that a planet, planet X, as they call it, will lose it's orbital path, and collide with earth in the year 2012. I do not believe that the moon would lose orbit, but I could be wrong. I am unable to view the video. I am at school, and youtube has been blocked. Sure, I could circumvent it, but I'm too busy using the circumvention to play Onslaught Tower Defense...I do not believe that the threat of global warming will have any effect on the orbit of our moon, or any other planet whatsoever. What proof do you have that our moon is losing orbit, and will have a crash course with us? You're right, I have no proof that I can give you. However, I have seen information that shows that the moon is losing orbit. You have, however, misinterpreted my statement. I did not mean to imply that the moon is going to crash -- to the contrary, it is being flung away from us.You seem to have told us that the moon was losing orbit, then give an account on what happens to lose an orbit, but where are your sources? Do you have any understanding of basic physics? If so, then you would not need a source, you can understand that that is what would happen.The earth, and the planets in our solar system have sustained pretty much the same orbital path since the universe began (6000 years ago), and it would have to take some cosmic interruption to cause those orbits to mess up, but it may be meteorites that do it. Who knows, we'll see what happens in 2012, one way or another. I shall assume that you meant 6,000,000,000 years ago, not 6,000. The Earth is bombarded by about 100 meteorites per year. I'm sure the same could be said for Venus, and even moreso for planets such as Jupiter and Saturn, who I'm sure get the brunt of it. Sure, minute things such as meteorites might not be noteworthy, but that's not true. If you add 1 to itself a billion times, you get a number that is MUCH larger than just 1 itself -- 1,000,000,001. If you bombard a planet with meteorites enough times, you will eventually disrupt the orbit. Sure, it would take a long time to do that, but, like you said, the planets have been here for (even if you did mean 6000) thousands of years. That's plenty of time for asteroids to disrupt orbits. Who knows? Perhaps our Moon was wreckage from another, distant planet in our Solar System.
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Post by Hawaiian Born on Oct 30, 2007 15:59:56 GMT -8
What if we're already dead but we haven't gone to heaven or hell yet and we're just floating around and we're just in a trance and everything that seems real, is just a dream. I mean the world ended on January 20, 2001.
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Post by tyrantisius on Oct 30, 2007 16:52:07 GMT -8
Clearly.
I think that if a planet, or a moon, was going to lose its orbit and collide with the Earth that quickly, there would be a bit more of a fuss about it. This is the first time I've heard the theory.
Won't happen.
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