|
Post by technohawk on Dec 20, 2006 21:31:17 GMT -8
Edit: That's the confusing part. He also didn't post this little snipet in his clarification.
He also told me in a PM that
But it's not implied in THIS:
If it's implied that small minds vote democrat AND republican then there would be no point to even bring that up in the first place.
|
|
|
Post by ga on Dec 21, 2006 14:28:29 GMT -8
so after that nice little renege, shall we focus on this topic: regardless of liberal or conservative / democrat or republican, what is the foolish choice in an election? in the US, it would be if you wanted contradicting parties in senate and congress, in Canada, what political party is a waste of your vote, or a show of low intelligence?
|
|
|
Post by porsche944s on Jan 15, 2007 21:00:59 GMT -8
There's too many liberal policies. There's a certain reason it's called a Federal REPUBLIC, not a bureacracy.
Although I can agree that are people that could use help from the government (due to serious injury, etc), the welfare program has gone way too far. Just take a look at that dirty, west-coast pile of trash known as Los Angeles. Probably one in five people there lives on welfare. Not because they can't get a job, but because many of them are too lazy or stupid to get one. What's amusing is how people in LA complain how hard their life is but do nothing about it, instead blaming the "whiteys in Washington" for their 4 starving bastard children.
Cut off welfare completely. Cut off foreign aid. The Marshall plan after WW2 was one thing, the European continent was a smouldering pile of rubble. Poor Caribbean/Pacific/African countries are suffering from their own fault by not taking care of things. We shouldn't feel the need to support everyone else. The USA is the last remaining superpower in the world. Western and indeed parts of Eastern Europe owe us their support, if not allegiance, from the Marshall plan. The rest of the world, though, can deal with our 300-ship navy, million-man army, and a quarter million pissed off leathernecks if they don't like us.
American government (as defined by the Constitution) is about as close to perfection as can be. The only corruption taking place has been the fault of the left-wing parties.
|
|
|
Post by rabidgecko on Jan 15, 2007 21:13:38 GMT -8
well the fact that many of those african and Caribbean countries were former colonies of european countries, and other countries around the world, and whether it was through revolution, or through the coloniser simply withdrawing, those entire countries were ripped to shreds basically. you can hardly blame them for the consequences of the actions of the nations that did the colonizing and meddling in the first place
|
|
|
Post by porsche944s on Jan 15, 2007 21:39:30 GMT -8
Did you notice how smoothly things went for the Europeans in the majority of their colonies? How often do you hear of revolts in colonial days? Sure, there was the American Revolution, and the breakup of the Spanish Empire. But just look at Africa and India. British and French for over 200 years with almost 0 trouble.
|
|
|
Post by technohawk on Jan 15, 2007 21:55:03 GMT -8
American government (as defined by the Constitution) is about as close to perfection as can be. The only corruption taking place has been the fault of the left-wing parties. Wow! So you are forgetting about: 1) Scotter Libby's(Republican) leak of an ACTIVE CIA agent's identity. 2) Jack Abramoff scandal that forced the resignations of republicans such as Tom Delay. 3)Katrina mishandling 4) Abu Graihb(sp?) torture scandal 5) Illegal wiretap scandal 6) Secret CIA prisons scandal 7) Allegations of election fraud in Florida and Ohio and so on.
|
|
|
Post by tyrantisius on Jan 15, 2007 22:02:10 GMT -8
Should watch The Daily Show more often
|
|
|
Post by Chalupa! on Jan 15, 2007 22:07:19 GMT -8
American government (as defined by the Constitution) is about as close to perfection as can be. The only corruption taking place has been the fault of the left-wing parties. Wow! So you are forgetting about: 1) Scotter Libby's(Republican) leak of an ACTIVE CIA agent's identity. 2) Jack Abramoff scandal that forced the resignations of republicans such as Tom Delay. So whenever a Republican does something wrong it's the fault of the entire party? Maybe next time when they are told to evacuate they will... Your point? Legal and glad it happened. Your point? Typical liberal bullshit. Never happened. and so on.
|
|
|
Post by tyrantisius on Jan 15, 2007 22:20:03 GMT -8
Well I think it's safe to say that there isn't much wrong with the American Government. Only the American politicians who run it.
|
|
|
Post by technohawk on Jan 15, 2007 22:21:36 GMT -8
What? Porsche says all scandals were from liberals.
Total conservative bullshit to paraphrase Chalupa.
I showed examples of SCANDALS that involve republicans.
They are all scandals.
Whether you think they are immoral or not is irrelevant to that fact.
A woman blowing a president in the oval office is a scandal. Even if it's irrelevant to how a country gets run.
Edit(12:04am): But honestly let's not start into another partisan hate-fest.
|
|
|
Post by rabidgecko on Jan 15, 2007 22:23:40 GMT -8
LOL umm yea porsche, africa, just because the countries went in and colonized, and the revolts werent all successful, doesnt mean that the colonisers didnt mess up the occupied, or colonized, countries big time... you think africa is ok right now? all these countries that were brought under the fold of an empire, and then as often as not, discarded when it became too much trouble and wasnt worth the effort to keep anymore, it is then that the countries were destroyed and set way back behind the rest of the world, not necessarily while they were being occupied by the colonist country
|
|
|
Post by porsche944s on Jan 16, 2007 5:05:38 GMT -8
The majority of Africa before colonization was a bunch of tribes full of naked people contracting malaria. European colonization allowed the continent to catch up with the times, to be modernized to the standards of the rest of the world. Just think of one thing; the Africans decided they could handle things on their own, hence the decolonization of the 60's and 70's. Well, since there's been at least one war going on on the continent for the last 40 years, I'd say they weren't completely ready. The violence of Africa is inevitable, the tribal issue is still strong. Europe just allowed them to come into the rest of the world.
|
|