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Iraq
May 15, 2005 16:15:57 GMT -8
Post by ♪Mr.Obv♫ on May 15, 2005 16:15:57 GMT -8
Do you think Iraq will ever become a good nation or will it always be the same with all the shootings and bombings?
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Iraq
May 15, 2005 20:34:37 GMT -8
Post by rabidgecko on May 15, 2005 20:34:37 GMT -8
.gees mr obvious its because they are mad. why else?
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Iraq
May 15, 2005 21:05:32 GMT -8
Post by Chalupa! on May 15, 2005 21:05:32 GMT -8
Rabid- You have no idea what you're talking about. That's almost like saying that Hitler and his followers were just fighting for freedom. Freedom is exactly what these "terrorists" are fighting against.
Power has been handed over to the Iraqi government and we are there to help them. Anyone blowing themselves up are doing so in an effort to bring by the communist rule.
Chalupa
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Iraq
May 15, 2005 23:19:08 GMT -8
Post by navyceals on May 15, 2005 23:19:08 GMT -8
Well i'm not sure that their fighting for a "communist system" per se, but ya not democratic for sure. It is a good question though, will the suicide bombers ever accept the new government.. They go about it with such a religious fueling it seems they will never compromise.
Which totally sucks! As of now, I think the militants still have strongholds, so as these strongholds are taken out, hopefully attacks will lessen; but it would be naive to think that all attacks could be stopped, when your dealing with an invisible army.
Plus after the iraqi government gets running for a while, hopefully they'll see iraq as a lost cause and worry about another middle east country not yet democratic!!
NavY_Ceals
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Iraq
May 16, 2005 15:07:00 GMT -8
Post by rabidgecko on May 16, 2005 15:07:00 GMT -8
ok f**k that, i dont wanna argue, its dumb. HA now you got nothing on me chalupa HAHAHAHAHA lol jk plz dont kill me ;D
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Iraq
May 16, 2005 18:09:44 GMT -8
Post by ♪Mr.Obv♫ on May 16, 2005 18:09:44 GMT -8
I Hint that Iraq is a bad place right now Rabid because there are Innocent People getting killed by terrorists.
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Iraq
May 17, 2005 16:56:29 GMT -8
Post by rabidgecko on May 17, 2005 16:56:29 GMT -8
yea by angry terrorists. i dont know why else someone would kill innocent people other than they are very very angry
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Iraq
May 17, 2005 17:59:56 GMT -8
Post by alink2thepast on May 17, 2005 17:59:56 GMT -8
Well unfortunately, i dont know if its possible to maintain a democratic Iraq without US occupation. We've seen repeatedly how persistant and unnegotiable these suicide bombers can be. I think the ongoing situation in Israel says enough. Also unfortunate, we have a bunch of people who wouldn't let the US do it's job and its a good thing we have a detirmined president in the white house because another candidate would probly take the US out too early and Iraq would just fall back down. The bottom line is, we have to be much more agressive in ending this or esle we're gonna end up with a small scale version of what happened in Vietnam
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Iraq
May 17, 2005 19:10:19 GMT -8
Post by rabidgecko on May 17, 2005 19:10:19 GMT -8
haha oops <--- ignore that It is US's job? hmm interesting. Why doesnt the US go to other countries too and convert them to democracy? I dunno, apparently only the oil companies I mean George Bush knows why, but i guess theres nothing i can do so I'll just agree
Yes I totally agree link, the US must go in and get rid of those terrorist bastards!
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Iraq
May 17, 2005 20:30:56 GMT -8
Post by Chalupa! on May 17, 2005 20:30:56 GMT -8
haha oops <--- ignore that It is US's job? hmm interesting. Why doesnt the US go to other countries too and convert them to democracy? I dunno, apparently only the oil companies I mean George Bush knows why, but i guess theres nothing i can do so I'll just agree Yes I totally agree link, the US must go in and get rid of those terrorist bastards! As usual you show your ignorance regarding the facts. How sad it must be to live in la la land. Care to back up your claim regarding the oil companies and how they made a profit off the war in Iraq? Oh, that's right, you live in Canada, and don't know how much we pay for gas here. It's such a great bargain now huh guys? But you won't back up your claims with facts.....because I forgot...you don't speak of the facts, but of the myths created in your own little Liberal world. It must be nice to just pull statements out of your @ss without the need to provide proof of the claim. The good news? Most (not all) Liberals act like you, and the American people are sick of it. That's why we have such a good President in office and not John Kerry. Chalupa
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Iraq
May 17, 2005 20:54:19 GMT -8
Post by LostPeon™ on May 17, 2005 20:54:19 GMT -8
That's why we have such a good President in office and not John Kerry. Chalupa I'll pretend I didn't see that... As for Iraq. I'm sure that it will calm down, but it might will take a couple more years to get everything settled. They just have a different set of morals and viewpoints over there. We can't just stomp on over there and expect things to change overnight. They have to decide on their own what kind of government to put in place and how they want to run things. We can't leave them completely in the dust, but we can't expect them to pull everything together without any help. Someone's gonna have to draw that fine line without pissing off too many people. We already saw what happens when we hand over a bunch of weapons and power and let things run its course. *cough* Afghanistan *cough* Why anyone would want to blow themselves and countless others up just to attempt to make a point that they probably don't even care about is beyond me, but it happens and we need to figure out some way to stop them. On another point, I still don't understand why we give so much money to countries in "foreign aid" just to have that money go into dictator's pockets and we know it. Then, it just gets spent fighting us, costing us even more money. If (most) everybody in the world hates the United States so much, why don't we just pretend like they aren't there. We could survive on our own... couldn't we? We don't need those silly other countries. All they do is cause trouble. So, I say we stop giving them money, stop trying to intervene with their problems, and if they mess with us, we show them who's boss...
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Iraq
May 17, 2005 22:27:50 GMT -8
Post by navyceals on May 17, 2005 22:27:50 GMT -8
hahahahahhaahha that's an interesting view lost! On a funny note, that wouldn't be too hard for most americans to just "forget" (that's giving them a huge benefit of the doubt that their aware of others in the first place) other countries exist. Unfortunately, those stupid smart politicians do know that others exist, now we'll just have to dumb them down too.
But without the US helping other countries and stuff, which the terrorists interpret as them screwing with them, they'd have no "good" reason to do anything to the US, so that might help.
And yes Rabid, the US has gone to other countries without oil, unfortunately, when they do that people find another reason to complain.
Hey Chalupa stop knocking CAnada, his name is Rabid, not Canada lol. And about the gas prices, do you really think that we're getting a better deal up here? Lol how could we have managed to negotiate that! And go look at all the americans who did vote for Kerry, so you guys ain't perfect either!
NavY_Ceals
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Iraq
May 17, 2005 22:52:46 GMT -8
Post by LostPeon™ on May 17, 2005 22:52:46 GMT -8
Oh yeah... I almost forgot Canada was full of conservatives, too. For shame! LostPeon
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Iraq
May 18, 2005 12:06:48 GMT -8
Post by alink2thepast on May 18, 2005 12:06:48 GMT -8
ok im sick of people saying we went to war with Iraq for its oil. thats completely untrue and just a stupid argument liberals make to make noise. You complain were attackin Iraq for oil, then when we try to get oil from within the country(opening up Alaska for oil drilling) you complain about that too. What do u suggest we do? And even if we did attack Iraq for their oil, can someone explain to me why thats not a valid reason? especially considering gas prices
This modification I made to the bottom is just to try and figure out how to do the slash through the words thing
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Iraq
May 18, 2005 13:07:39 GMT -8
Post by greeny on May 18, 2005 13:07:39 GMT -8
Quote: Yes I totally agree link, the US must go in and get rid of those terrorist bastards!
Ummmmm.... rabid, some people might find that statement horribly offensive. They have the same views of us as we do of them. In our eyes, they don't appreciate the help we are giving them, and they are killing our people and taking hostages. In their eyes, we invaded their country and turned, what for most of them was, a pretty good government upside down. Since the occupation many of these people always are fearing for their lives. To us they might be terrorists, but we're terrorists to them, as well. -----greeny
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